Essence's Miss World 2014 Final Hot Picks - RELEASED

1. Australia
2. South Africa
3. Turkey
4. Haiti
5. Dom. Rep.
6. Ecuador
8. Indonesia
9. Netherlands
10. France
11. El Salvador
12. Moldova
13. Mexico
14. Colombia
15. Mongolia
16. South Sudan
17. Georgia
18. Hungary
19. Nepal
20. Tanzania

1. Mexico
2. Haiti
3. Israel
4. Dominican Republic
5. Turkey
6. Brazil
7. South Africa
8. El Salvador
9. Puerto Rico
10. Thailand
11. Veneuela
12. Philippines
13. Colombia
14. Mongolia
15. Australia
16. South Sudan
17. Chad
18. Netherlands
19. England
20. India

1. India
2 south africa
3 England
4 Spain
5 Ecuador

6 Hungary
7 Panama
8 Malta
9 Thailand
10 Indonesia

11 Dominican r
12 Guyana
13 France
14 Russia
15 Lebanon

16 Philippines
17 El sarvador
18 Brazil
19 Guam
20 Turkey

1.MEXICO
2.TURKEY
3.USA
4.RUSSIA
5.AUSTRALIA
6.INDONESIA
7.PARAGUAY
8.SOUTH AFRICA
9.KOSOVO
10.THAILAND
11.ENGLAND
12.ARGENTINA
13.PUERTO RICO
14.HUNGARY
15.BRAZIL
16.EL SALVADOR
17.INDIA
18.SERBIA
19.FRANCE
20.TRINIDAD & TOBAGO

The results of the fast-tracks were released. See: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

1. South Africa
2. India
3. Mexico
4. Hungary
5. Turkey
6. Malta
7. Austria
8. Slovakia
9. Georgia
10. Norway
11. Serbia
12. Namimbia
13. Finland
14. Iceland
15. Australia
16. Poland
17. Kazakhstan
18. Moldova
19. Thailand
20. Northern Ireland

1. Mexico
2. Israel
3. Turkey
4. Haiti
5. El Salvador
6. Dom. Rep.
7. India
8. South Africa
9. Puerto Rico
10. Austria
11. South Sudan
12. United States
13. Hong Kong
14. Mongolia
15. Moldova
16. Colombia
17. Serbia
18. Greece
19. Argentina
20. Ecuador

1. Australia
2. Mexico
3. Thailand
4. Haiti
5. South Africa
6. Turkey
7. D.R.
8. England
9. Netherlands
10. Brazil
11. El Salvador
12. Venezuela
13. South Sudan
14. Ecuador
15. Ethiopia
16. Philippines
17. Austria
18. Colombia
19. France
20. Indonesia

Do not change your lists. I will add this now.

Miss World – Final Top 20
1. S. Africa
2. India
3. England
4. Mexico
5. Australia
6. USA
7. Hungary
8. Kenya
9. Guyana
10. Sweden
11. Scotland
12. Netherlands
13. Russia
14. Brazil
15. S. Sudan
16. China
17. Haiti
18. Indonesia
19. Bolivia
20. Philippines

Others (randon): Bosnia, Czeck Rep., DR, Finland, Malaysia, Mongolia, Namibia, Serbia, Turkey & Wales
*This list was made after the results of the Fast-Tracks and other activities, like the Charity Gala, Best Designer and People’s Choice.

SA was the only in all lists. So, in add positions/points, she had the best average.

Marcia Bia wrote:Miss World – Final Top 20
1. S. Africa
2. India
3. England
4. Mexico
5. Australia
.........

This is a very realistic top5!

Again the same top?
In every page, forums, etc. I am sorry guys for being so sincere, but I am tired of the same thing.

A good HPs for me is who reflects what can be real (and not only personal tastes). This is "relative" easy on MW. We can see objectively the results of the Fast-Tracks (and not based our list only on subjetive tastes). For me is not a problem see that the girls are the same - when is objective that they deserve and are going well.

In my personal list of the Top 20, only Haiti wasn't in MW's list.
I based me on the official results and made "little adaptations" based on my personal criterias. Ex Australia: she was not one of the bests in the average (at the final she placed realy in 10th), but in my list I put her in 5th because she was beautiful and Morley loves aussies in the final lists.

Marcia Bia wrote:A good HPs for me is who reflects what can be real (and not only personal tastes). This is "relative" easy on MW. We can see objectively the results of the Fast-Tracks (and not based our list only on subjetive tastes). For me is not a problem see that the girls are the same - when is objective that they deserve and are going well.

In my personal list of the Top 20, only Haiti wasn't in MW's list.
I based me on the official results and made "little adaptations" based on my personal criterias. Ex Australia: she was not one of the bests in the average (at the final she placed realy in 10th), but in my list I put her in 5th because she was beautiful and Morley loves aussies in the final lists.

I DISAGREE!

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT YOUR HOT PICKS ARE REAL IF THEY ARE BASED SOLELY ON THE PAGEANT RESULTS???

I CHOOSE MY HOT PICKS FROM EVERY BEAUTY PAGEANT BASED ON MY "TASTE"; TASTE WHICH IS BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE AND CRITERIA ON RELEVANT TOPICS SUCH AS PHYSICAL BEAUTY, BODY PROPORTIONS, SPEECH, COMMUNICATION INTELLIGENCE, POISE AND TALENTS OF THE OFFICIAL CONTESTANTS.

WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR HOT PICKS YOU ARE BEING A PUBLIC AND NON-OFFICIAL PAGEANT JUDGE AND PART OF THE SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR CONTESTANTS OF A PAGEANT. IF YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER NOT VOTING AT THE END WHAT THE PAGEANT MEMBERS JUDGE IS RIGHT FOR YOU SO WHY WASTE TIME "VOTING" LOL YOU ARE JUST REPEATING THEIR RESULTS.

(ON "LITTLE ADAPTATIONS") MAKING HOT PICKS BASED ON PAGEANT RESULTS IS LIKE CHEATING ON A SCHOOL TEST, YOU GET THE GOOD GRADES BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

EVERYONE CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW THEY WANT BUT DON'T GET LOST TRYING TO REACH A GOAL WHERE YOU LOSE YOUR VALUES, JUDGMENT AND INTEGRITY.

Lola99 wrote:

Marcia Bia wrote:A good HPs for me is who reflects what can be real (and not only personal tastes). This is "relative" easy on MW. We can see objectively the results of the Fast-Tracks (and not based our list only on subjetive tastes). For me is not a problem see that the girls are the same - when is objective that they deserve and are going well.

In my personal list of the Top 20, only Haiti wasn't in MW's list.
I based me on the official results and made "little adaptations" based on my personal criterias. Ex Australia: she was not one of the bests in the average (at the final she placed realy in 10th), but in my list I put her in 5th because she was beautiful and Morley loves aussies in the final lists.

I DISAGREE!

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT YOUR HOT PICKS ARE REAL IF THEY ARE BASED SOLELY ON THE PAGEANT RESULTS???

I CHOOSE MY HOT PICKS FROM EVERY BEAUTY PAGEANT BASED ON MY "TASTE"; TASTE WHICH IS BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE AND CRITERIA ON RELEVANT TOPICS SUCH AS PHYSICAL BEAUTY, BODY PROPORTIONS, SPEECH, COMMUNICATION INTELLIGENCE, POISE AND TALENTS OF THE OFFICIAL CONTESTANTS.  

WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR HOT PICKS YOU ARE BEING A PUBLIC AND NON-OFFICIAL PAGEANT JUDGE AND PART OF THE SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR CONTESTANTS OF A PAGEANT.  IF YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER NOT VOTING AT THE END WHAT THE PAGEANT MEMBERS JUDGE IS RIGHT FOR YOU SO WHY WASTE TIME "VOTING" LOL YOU ARE JUST REPEATING THEIR RESULTS.  

(ON "LITTLE ADAPTATIONS") MAKING HOT PICKS BASED ON PAGEANT RESULTS IS LIKE CHEATING ON A SCHOOL TEST, YOU GET THE GOOD GRADES BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

EVERYONE CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW THEY WANT BUT DON'T GET LOST TRYING TO REACH A GOAL WHERE YOU LOSE YOUR VALUES, JUDGMENT AND INTEGRITY.

I did not say that my HPs is real. I say that we all need use not only our heart, but what we can say "objective criterias" for make the tops, like the official results in the Fast-Tracks on the MW. In MU this is more difficult, but we have, for ex, the criteria "sash".

Marcia Bia wrote:

Lola99 wrote:

Marcia Bia wrote:A good HPs for me is who reflects what can be real (and not only personal tastes). This is "relative" easy on MW. We can see objectively the results of the Fast-Tracks (and not based our list only on subjetive tastes). For me is not a problem see that the girls are the same - when is objective that they deserve and are going well.

In my personal list of the Top 20, only Haiti wasn't in MW's list.
I based me on the official results and made "little adaptations" based on my personal criterias. Ex Australia: she was not one of the bests in the average (at the final she placed realy in 10th), but in my list I put her in 5th because she was beautiful and Morley loves aussies in the final lists.

I DISAGREE!

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT YOUR HOT PICKS ARE REAL IF THEY ARE BASED SOLELY ON THE PAGEANT RESULTS???

I CHOOSE MY HOT PICKS FROM EVERY BEAUTY PAGEANT BASED ON MY "TASTE"; TASTE WHICH IS BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE AND CRITERIA ON RELEVANT TOPICS SUCH AS PHYSICAL BEAUTY, BODY PROPORTIONS, SPEECH, COMMUNICATION INTELLIGENCE, POISE AND TALENTS OF THE OFFICIAL CONTESTANTS.  

WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR HOT PICKS YOU ARE BEING A PUBLIC AND NON-OFFICIAL PAGEANT JUDGE AND PART OF THE SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR CONTESTANTS OF A PAGEANT.  IF YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER NOT VOTING AT THE END WHAT THE PAGEANT MEMBERS JUDGE IS RIGHT FOR YOU SO WHY WASTE TIME "VOTING" LOL YOU ARE JUST REPEATING THEIR RESULTS.  

(ON "LITTLE ADAPTATIONS") MAKING HOT PICKS BASED ON PAGEANT RESULTS IS LIKE CHEATING ON A SCHOOL TEST, YOU GET THE GOOD GRADES BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

EVERYONE CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW THEY WANT BUT DON'T GET LOST TRYING TO REACH A GOAL WHERE YOU LOSE YOUR VALUES, JUDGMENT AND INTEGRITY.

I did not say that my HPs is real. I say that we all need use not only our heart, but what we can say "objective criterias" for make the tops, like the official results in the Fast-Tracks on the MW. In MU this is more difficult, but we have, for ex, the criteria "sash".

YES, YOU DID IT STATE IT. WHEN YOU COMPARE BOTH VOTING METHODS AND YOU SAY IN YOUR FIRST SENTENCE THAT A GOOD HOT PICK IS ONE WHICH IS BASED ON THE PAGEANT RESULTS & YOU CONSIDER IT MORE OBJECTIVE BECAUSE YOU CAN SCORE BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO INCLUDING IN YOUR HOT PICKS THE SAME GIRLS THAT ACTUALLY CLASSIFY IN THE PAGEANT.

BUT, YOUR CLASSIFICATION OF OBJECTIVITY IS WRONG BECAUSE AS I EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO CHOOSES BASED ON MY "TASTE", MY TASTE IS BASED ON MY CRITERIA & KNOWLEDGE WHICH IS CONSTRUCTED WITH DIFFERENT RELEVANT ELEMENTS OF A BEAUTY PAGEANT COMPETITION SO I KNOW HOW AND WHY I'M VOTING FOR EVERY CONTESTANT VS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR CRITERIA THEY JUST COPY BASED ON PAGEANT RESULTS.

IN ANY CASE, IF YOU LIKE TO MENTION BEING "OBJECTIVE", PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT ARE YOU BEING OBJECTIVE IN, FOR OR WITH? WHEN YOU DEGRADE YOUR JUDGEMENT AND CREATE YOUR LIST FROM THE PAGEANT RESULTS ALONE. JUST COMPLYING WITH THEM?

WELL, I MAINTAIN MY ETHOS, THEY ARE WELL FOUNDED AND AS WE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE WE SHOULD CHOOSE WISELY AND VALUE OURSELVES.

(...) PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT ARE YOU BEING OBJECTIVE IN, FOR OR WITH? ...

For ex: The MW is quite "objective" . The final result is based on the prelims results (ok, not all the results are released, but we have a good group of highlighted girls) so we can use these "objective results" for make the tops. Other: we can think the countries who are going well in the recent past years are making a good job, so they have more chances for go good again (in this cases, in all the GS pageants. We see Phils, Brazil, Venez, going well in MU and ME).
I saw a lot of people in the Facebook groups and in the forums waiting girls for the win in MW who did not highlighted in the prelims in the pageant. And they were bored with the official result.

Essence predicted the correct MW, S. Africa, but only made Australia in the Top 5 and India in the Top 10.

Marcia Bia wrote:(...) PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT ARE YOU BEING OBJECTIVE IN, FOR OR WITH? ...

For ex: The MW is quite "objective" . The final result is based on the prelims results (ok, not all the results are released, but we have a good group of highlighted girls) so we can use these "objective results" for make the tops. Other: we can think the countries who are going well in the recent past years are making a good job, so they have more chances for go good again (in this cases, in all the GS pageants. We see Phils, Brazil, Venez, going well in MU and ME).
I saw a lot of people in the Facebook groups and in the forums waiting girls for the win in MW who did not highlighted in the prelims in the pageant. And they were bored with the official result.

YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING WHAT I WAS ASKING PLEASE DON'T DIVERT THE ANSWER FROM THE QUESTION. I AM QUESTIONING YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE ON THIS MATTER. I MAINTAIN MY POSITION WHICH IS WELL SUPPORTED AND I CAN SUSTAIN THROUGH OUT THIS DISCUSSION. FOR ME IT IS DONE, I DON'T LIKE TO GO IN CIRCLES AS I'VE STATED MY POINT OF VIEW AND IN THIS CASE IT IS FINAL, SUSTAINED AND PROVEN.

P.S.
SINCE I'M NOT ACTIVE IN OTHER FORUMS I WONT JUDGE WHAT I DON'T KNOW BUT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE VOTES OF THIS FORUM WHICH I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT OF.